Attacking without full profit *Problem*

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I attacked pleiades with 54 small cargos (cargo space=270,000).. he had wel over 550,000 res. the fuel cost only 1,000 to get there. WHen i got the combat report, I only got 200,000 of his res...

i probed him afterwards and...sure enough, he had 300,000 res total so I know he didnt spend any in the time of attack. Can anyone tell me why this happened?!

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[eXg. CrUsH]

When you plunder somebody you can take a maximum of half of what they have. soooooooooo.


If they have:

Metal = 288.000
Crystal = 126.000
Deuterium = 28.000


You can plunder a maximum of:

Metal = 144.000
Crystal = 68.000
Dueterium = 14.000


So they had 442k worth of resources on the planet. You can get 221k worth of resources max.

So take the full amount of resources they have, divide that number by 2, and then divide that by what you are sending. If you send small cargo's then divide by 5, if you take large divide by 25.

Then after you do that, add a couple more to cover deut costs, or losses.


Hope that helps.

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i'm saying i did that, i was supposed to get 269,000 in res, but the total amount of res i recieved barely surpassed 200,000.

he had 552,000 metal and very little crystal and deut.

i sent 54 sc's =270,000 cargo cap. i can post up the probe, cr, and post probe...

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You can see the amount of res he has in the first probe. I didnt get that full amount in my first attack...am I just being retarded or sumthing?

[eXg. sabooya]

You already answered your own question...
54 small cargos (cargo space=270,000)..
Also what are his defenses is he taking out any of your ships.
you don't have enough cargos to get it all.

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i had zero losses in those attacks.. he just had 1 ion cannon and I sent 54 sc's with 5 cruisers. I still didnt make as much profit as I should have. I don't know, it's not a big profit loss but it's something.

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[Puddle]

actually, from the crs, you should have sent 64 scs to get the full res possible.

beside that, maybe the cruisers chewed up more room due to deut costs??

[Pandoz]

deuterium counts against your cargo space.

[eXg. CrUsH]

There you go puddle thats it. And Ill quote myself from earlier.



"So take the full amount of resources they have, divide that number by 2, and then divide that by what you are sending. If you send small cargo's then divide by 5, if you take large divide by 25.

Then after you do that, add a couple more to cover deut costs, or losses."

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read my first post

the fuel cost only 1,000 to get there.

the reason i only sent 54 sc's is cause the very first time i probed him he had only 480,000 metal. That espionage report was the one I do like 1 minute before the hit to make sure I don't get ninja'd.. I looked at almost every aspect.

Like I said, deut affected my cargo space but only by 1,000

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[eXg. sabooya]

send 200 large carogs and see if you still have a problem

[eXg. Pun1sher]

Agreed. Send a few extra and see.

PuN

[Puddle]

i "simmed" the attack using my own ships and found that exit's fleet should have returned ~270k worth of res and from the cr, it was more around 200k like exit said.

the only thing i can say is that could pleaides have been logged on? maybe he had like 2-3 large cargos and fleetsaved some metal. this would explain the missing 70k metal. also if you look at the difference of metal initially and what you obtained, it doesn't add up to 308k (what's left over from the esp report).

if it's not that, then i'd say do as sabooya said and send like 200 freakin lcs and 200 cruisers and bomb the planet

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that's really strange... It adds up so my profits should make his left over metal be around 297,000... I appreciate you all looking into this. During the attack, pleiades never had an asterisk (*) next to his name. I know he never came online. His metal mine is 26 so he was pumping out metal pretty good, but not that much in 11 minutes. Maybe some cargos came to the planet on a transport mission from his distant planet.? I don't know who does transport missions to themselves but that could be likely.

That still doesnt explain why I didnt get the full amount of metal. The only way was if pleiades had some cargos and came online, fleetsaved, and recalled before my post probe... And i'm certain he was not online during the whole ordeal. Also, this is not the first time I havent received the full amount of profit from an attack.. It has happened like 3 other times.

I will bash him in the future

Thanks for all the help everyone!

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PS. Crush, that's real good advice for new players. What I always do is take the amount of res on their planets and round each one (metal, crystal, deut) up to the nearest 10,000 to compensate for the deut cost and the rise in res in the time it takes for the attacking fleet to arrive...then divide by two and the cargo capacities of the cargos i'm bringin

[SunTzu]

http://board.ogame.org/thread.php?threadid=1285


there you find all calculations